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11:57 am
September 28, 2008


barrybhoy

Kelvinator

glasgow/milton

posts 12

1

i seen bailiffs for the first tme on the river

12:05 pm
September 28, 2008


barrybhoy

Kelvinator

glasgow/milton

posts 12

2

seen bailiffs for fst time on the kelvin up at the balmore road end he stop me asking for permit but i thenherd of another guy he wasnt a bailiff but the guy who was ment to be a bailiff  had it stamped on hiz permit it look as if he was a bailiff but the guys i was speaking said u just get ur permit stamped bailiff when u buy 1 but he said it dosnt mean ur 1? can any1 fill me in on this because i didnt have a permit  as i left it in the house and  all he said was u cant come any further

12:28 pm
September 28, 2008


Stuart B

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 111

3

barrybhoy said:

seen bailiffs for first time on the kelvin up at the balmore road end he stop me asking for permit but i then herd of another guy he wasnt a bailiff but the guy who was ment to be a bailiff  had it stamped on hiz permit it look as if he was a bailiff but the guys i was speaking said u just get ur permit stamped bailiff when u buy 1 but he said it dosnt mean ur 1? can any1 fill me in on this because i didnt have a permit  as i left it in the house and  all he said was u cant come any further


Just having a permit is not enough . You must be able to show it to anyone who has the right to see it and that means carrying it with you when fishing .  However what you are saying above ( if I understand you correctly ) is a different matter .There are bailiffs and bailiffs … Crown Bailiffs have considerable powers and I'd imagine anyone posing as one is commiting a criminal offence but if someone showed me a Crown Bailiff Warrant I would have no idea if it was legit or not . If this person who stopped you was just a permit holder and had it stamped “Bailiff” then he has no more right to stop you then anyone else and I'd say that if he physically prevented you then he would be commiting an offence himself .

There is a thread here

http://www.flyforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=27659&page=3

about this topic .

12:42 pm
September 28, 2008


barrybhoy

Kelvinator

glasgow/milton

posts 12

4

thanks for the post

5:16 pm
September 28, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

5

did the guy have crispy hands

1:44 am
October 1, 2008


DavieC

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 130

6

ANDY C said:

did the guy have crispy hands


crispy hands lol

5:47 pm
October 1, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

7

Wink

9:09 am
October 2, 2008


DavieC

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 130

8

only seen one baliff on the river  and i fish it all over from the mouth all the way to kirkintilloch

9:11 am
October 2, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

9

was it crispy hands

9:13 am
October 2, 2008


DavieC

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 130

10

naw wasnt him was another dafty

9:16 am
October 2, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

11

vin


7:11 pm
October 5, 2008


theavonangler

New Member

posts 10

12

A legit Bailiff would have a warrent card with him with a photo on it. I believe it is quite difficult to become a bailiff as you have to do courses and sit an exam. You also have to have insurance, mostly against some pratt having a go at you.

Those guys do however have more power that the police and on a salmon river can confiscate all your equipment, and even your car if you fish for salmon without a permit.

7:13 pm
October 5, 2008


theavonangler

New Member

posts 10

13

I was told that last bit by a bobby.

9:30 am
October 6, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

14

theavonangler said:

A legit Bailiff would have a warrent card with him with a photo on it. I believe it is quite difficult to become a bailiff as you have to do courses and sit an exam. You also have to have insurance, mostly against some pratt having a go at you.

Those guys do however have more power that the police and on a salmon river can confiscate all your equipment, and even your car if you fish for salmon without a permit.


can a baily from another river come 2 a river and have the same power that he has on his own 1 or is he the same as everybody else just wondering

10:00 pm
October 6, 2008


Stuart B

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 111

15

ANDY C said:

theavonangler said:

A legit Bailiff would have a warrent card with him with a photo on it. I believe it is quite difficult to become a bailiff as you have to do courses and sit an exam. You also have to have insurance, mostly against some pratt having a go at you.

Those guys do however have more power that the police and on a salmon river can confiscate all your equipment, and even your car if you fish for salmon without a permit.


can a baily from another river come 2 a river and have the same power that he has on his own 1 or is he the same as everybody else just wondering


A question for The Scottish Executive methinks..Send them an e-mail

8:41 am
October 7, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

16

its a question that im askin hear the scottish ex heeds r stuck up ther own ass there

2 bizy trying to rip us off when have u seen them fishing the kelvin

1:06 pm
October 7, 2008


Stuart B

Hard Core Urban Fly Fisher

posts 111

17

ANDY C said:

It's a question that I'm asking here. The Scottish Executive heads are stuck up their own ass. they're 2 busy trying to rip us off. When have you seen them fishing the Kelvin?


Yes I am well aware that you asked the question here and I have answered it by suggesting you ask those who issue the Crown Bailiffs with their warrants .

Try looking here

http://search1.scotland.gov.uk/Scotland?n=All&rcexpanded=false&action=search&q=Bailiffs

You might find the answer  to your question .


3:03 pm
October 7, 2008


theavonangler

New Member

posts 10

18

I'll ask the guys at my club tomorrow.

8:59 am
October 8, 2008


ANDY C

Bushinator

posts 274

19

theavonangler said:

I'll ask the guys at my club tomorrow.


cheers m8


1:59 pm
October 9, 2008


theavonangler

New Member

posts 10

20

It seems that Crown Bailiffs are appointed to police a specific river and nobody I talked to thinks that the can act on other rivers. It seems also that clubs can appoint their own bailiffs to police trout river but these guys have few powers and the best they can do is to ask you to stop fishing.

 

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