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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:price etc. Travel costs have got to be taken in to consideration as well as permit costs.if you are on a low income as iam and the price of travel equals a day permit on some waters it can leave you pretty skint after just one days fishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:price etc. Travel costs have got to be taken in to consideration as well as permit costs.if you are on a low income as iam and the price of travel equals a day permit on some waters it can leave you pretty skint after just one days fishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 14:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBW - top links there - Eynsford looks like a lovely stream.......

James - let me know ho you get on !

Alistair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBW &#8211; top links there &#8211; Eynsford looks like a lovely stream&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>James &#8211; let me know ho you get on !</p>
<p>Alistair</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try somewhere further along the canal somewhere next week, maybe with more success. Actually, some parts of the Kelvin upstream of Garscube look as if they might hold a few pike.  Do we know if any have ever been caught?

That&#039;s bad news about the Wandle.  I hadn&#039;t heard the story until it was mentioned here. I&#039;d heard a lot of good things about the river&#039;s recovery.  Still, if the situation is handled correctly, with the right kind of habitat management etc, things might recover more quickly than you might imagine. No guarantee of that, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try somewhere further along the canal somewhere next week, maybe with more success. Actually, some parts of the Kelvin upstream of Garscube look as if they might hold a few pike.  Do we know if any have ever been caught?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s bad news about the Wandle.  I hadn&#8217;t heard the story until it was mentioned here. I&#8217;d heard a lot of good things about the river&#8217;s recovery.  Still, if the situation is handled correctly, with the right kind of habitat management etc, things might recover more quickly than you might imagine. No guarantee of that, though.</p>
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		<title>By: suburban bushwacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>suburban bushwacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Darenth, although technically not always an urban river, is looking good. 
A guy I used to work with had had very good results dead baiting for Pike, and these sites look promising
Eynsford
Six feet from where the kids are standing in the pic (top left) I’ve seen a trout of 12-14 inches.
http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/river/eynsford.htm

Farningham; where if the faded sign is to believed Charles Dickens fished regularly. 
I’ve also seen everything from fry to the 12 mark and numerous Roach.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farningham

But for absolutely free fishing
Under the QE2 bridge is rumoured to be a great place for estuary Sea Bass.
http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0000486

For those of us with a fascination for ‘extreme urban fishing’

As mentioned before I’m keen to get into the Ravensbourne, Jeremiah tells me that the accidental angler has said there are no trout in it, I relayed this message to a guy I know from a local environmental group who gave it an unequivocal 
“bollox, I’ve seen Thames water electro fish a stretch for a survey and there were defiantly trout in the catch”
email me for details of access.
SBW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Darenth, although technically not always an urban river, is looking good.<br />
A guy I used to work with had had very good results dead baiting for Pike, and these sites look promising<br />
Eynsford<br />
Six feet from where the kids are standing in the pic (top left) I’ve seen a trout of 12-14 inches.<br />
<a href="http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/river/eynsford.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/river/eynsford.htm</a></p>
<p>Farningham; where if the faded sign is to believed Charles Dickens fished regularly.<br />
I’ve also seen everything from fry to the 12 mark and numerous Roach.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farningham" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farningham</a></p>
<p>But for absolutely free fishing<br />
Under the QE2 bridge is rumoured to be a great place for estuary Sea Bass.<br />
<a href="http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0000486" rel="nofollow">http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0000486</a></p>
<p>For those of us with a fascination for ‘extreme urban fishing’</p>
<p>As mentioned before I’m keen to get into the Ravensbourne, Jeremiah tells me that the accidental angler has said there are no trout in it, I relayed this message to a guy I know from a local environmental group who gave it an unequivocal<br />
“bollox, I’ve seen Thames water electro fish a stretch for a survey and there were defiantly trout in the catch”<br />
email me for details of access.<br />
SBW</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 07:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James - Like I say - there are other parts of the canal with a little more boat traffic - it seems to keep the weeds at bay 

SBW - I put the Wandle on my list of places to fish - now it looks like a little more long term - what other rivers are close by that do not cost an arm and a leg ?

Jeremiah - I did not know he was a fly fisher actually - Stewart Ferguson the policeman that was involved is a fly fisher as well - maybe it is something to do with fly fishers being just that little bit crazy ? 

Alistair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8211; Like I say &#8211; there are other parts of the canal with a little more boat traffic &#8211; it seems to keep the weeds at bay </p>
<p>SBW &#8211; I put the Wandle on my list of places to fish &#8211; now it looks like a little more long term &#8211; what other rivers are close by that do not cost an arm and a leg ?</p>
<p>Jeremiah &#8211; I did not know he was a fly fisher actually &#8211; Stewart Ferguson the policeman that was involved is a fly fisher as well &#8211; maybe it is something to do with fly fishers being just that little bit crazy ? </p>
<p>Alistair</p>
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		<title>By: jeremiah</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will pay you a visit on The Kelvin next season.  Although I have it on good account that &#039;this is Glasge, we&#039;ll set aboot ye&#039;.  Perhaps you don&#039;t know, but John Smeaton is a very keen fly fisher.  And if he chins a man on fire as recreation during a fag break, heaven knows what he&#039;ll do to a sassenach ponce like me taking up space on his river.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will pay you a visit on The Kelvin next season.  Although I have it on good account that &#8216;this is Glasge, we&#8217;ll set aboot ye&#8217;.  Perhaps you don&#8217;t know, but John Smeaton is a very keen fly fisher.  And if he chins a man on fire as recreation during a fag break, heaven knows what he&#8217;ll do to a sassenach ponce like me taking up space on his river.</p>
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		<title>By: suburban bushwacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>suburban bushwacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, sadly i missed the action on the Wandle, after all the hard work those guys put in, its really bad news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, sadly i missed the action on the Wandle, after all the hard work those guys put in, its really bad news.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Alistair
No luck on the canal. Too weedy for my plugs. Might have to fish a bit deeper, too. 

£500 for the local river?  I could probably justify it to my wife, but not to myself. I wouldn&#039;t necessarily see a 1.5 hour trip as an obstacle. A jolly up to the Tummel would involve that anyway.  I&#039;m not snobbish anyway - quite happy to harass chub, perch or any other sufficiently foolish fish, in the absence of reasonably priced trout.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Alistair<br />
No luck on the canal. Too weedy for my plugs. Might have to fish a bit deeper, too. </p>
<p>£500 for the local river?  I could probably justify it to my wife, but not to myself. I wouldn&#8217;t necessarily see a 1.5 hour trip as an obstacle. A jolly up to the Tummel would involve that anyway.  I&#8217;m not snobbish anyway &#8211; quite happy to harass chub, perch or any other sufficiently foolish fish, in the absence of reasonably priced trout.</p>
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		<title>By: Alistair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alistair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SBW, 

Did you ever manage to have a bash on the Wandle before it was killed off with pollution a few months ago ?

James, 

Nice meeting you again down on the Forth n Clyde - how did you get on ? 
Lets say you moved somewhere where the river 15mins from your door cost £500 - the only other reasnable fishing is 1.5 hours away - with a new baby would your wife go for it or would it be a no go ?

Kbarton10 - yup it that local stream I am talking about - knowing as well you will not be able to get away for a good session very often - kind of ups the stakes doesnt it !

Jeremiah - some people dont pay anything to fish the Kelvin so they are on a winner ! You going to be paying us a vist this year you think - if the Kelvin is out of action could take you to The Clyde as well - now that is good fishing !

Alan - £500 for Salmon - you are a bloody toff ;-)
Just wait until we are catching those Pike for nothing....


Alistair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SBW, </p>
<p>Did you ever manage to have a bash on the Wandle before it was killed off with pollution a few months ago ?</p>
<p>James, </p>
<p>Nice meeting you again down on the Forth n Clyde &#8211; how did you get on ?<br />
Lets say you moved somewhere where the river 15mins from your door cost £500 &#8211; the only other reasnable fishing is 1.5 hours away &#8211; with a new baby would your wife go for it or would it be a no go ?</p>
<p>Kbarton10 &#8211; yup it that local stream I am talking about &#8211; knowing as well you will not be able to get away for a good session very often &#8211; kind of ups the stakes doesnt it !</p>
<p>Jeremiah &#8211; some people dont pay anything to fish the Kelvin so they are on a winner ! You going to be paying us a vist this year you think &#8211; if the Kelvin is out of action could take you to The Clyde as well &#8211; now that is good fishing !</p>
<p>Alan &#8211; £500 for Salmon &#8211; you are a bloody toff <img src='http://urbanflyfisher.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Just wait until we are catching those Pike for nothing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Alistair</p>
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		<title>By: alan atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 11:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are fortunate in Scotland to have wild, unspoilt fisheries that require little management in terms of stocking or habitat restoration, ansd that are, on the whole , lightly fished. So, my fishing (trout) for the season consists of permits for the Klevin, Clyde and Avon, so a total of around £60 , for probably what equates to over 50 miles of river. There are always going to be stretches that are fihsed hard on these waters, but such is the diversity of the fishing that you can always find a quiet and often more productive spot for day&#039;s fishing.So, on the whole , very good value. However, we are spoilt in Scotland and if i was living in England in an area where the nearest trout stream was an hours drive away and i only had the opportunity to fish a couple of times a week during the season , teh i might pay £500 - difficult to say. My other permits for the season include £135 for a season on the Teith and then probably another £300 - £400 for various days on various sea trout / salmon fisheries. Add to that £15 for a grayling ticket and there you have £500 spent. I think itn all depends on what is on offer, as i &#039;ve said before £500 spent on a season&#039;s fishing in Scotland will give you far more variety than in certain areas South of the border. It&#039;s all a matter of priorities !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are fortunate in Scotland to have wild, unspoilt fisheries that require little management in terms of stocking or habitat restoration, ansd that are, on the whole , lightly fished. So, my fishing (trout) for the season consists of permits for the Klevin, Clyde and Avon, so a total of around £60 , for probably what equates to over 50 miles of river. There are always going to be stretches that are fihsed hard on these waters, but such is the diversity of the fishing that you can always find a quiet and often more productive spot for day&#8217;s fishing.So, on the whole , very good value. However, we are spoilt in Scotland and if i was living in England in an area where the nearest trout stream was an hours drive away and i only had the opportunity to fish a couple of times a week during the season , teh i might pay £500 &#8211; difficult to say. My other permits for the season include £135 for a season on the Teith and then probably another £300 &#8211; £400 for various days on various sea trout / salmon fisheries. Add to that £15 for a grayling ticket and there you have £500 spent. I think itn all depends on what is on offer, as i &#8216;ve said before £500 spent on a season&#8217;s fishing in Scotland will give you far more variety than in certain areas South of the border. It&#8217;s all a matter of priorities !!</p>
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